Sep 09, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: House of Moon
Profession: R/Rt
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Nornbear Cost Me My Survivor Title
This isn't just a rant, ok, maybe it is, but here is the story and I'm not lying or changing any events. Everything stated below is the absolute truth.
I was at 960,000+ exp, I was hunting the Nornbear, I was at the end where you get to kill him. I'm a Paragon, I had at the time 641 health, had the extra from norn title track on. The stupid Nornbear kept trying to disappear even though he is supposed to be killed at this point. He disappears and my team stops, he reappears and suddenly my Survivor is dead. Nothing on screen to say what killed me. Just 1 death registered. None of my other team members died btw. I had 3 monks (Dunkoro, Mhenlo, Lina), 1 Mesmer (Lo Shea), 1 Earth Ele (Herta), 1 Fire Ele (Zhed), 1 MM Bomber (Olias). Everyone lived, but me.
This is total freaking BS. I think at the very least I deserve some type of explanation. Please tell me this isn't Anet's idea of a joke. You know, like those really funny rolling rocks that kill you and make you freak out for a few mintues until you realize it doesn't register a death penalty. Yeah that's comedy gold right there...
Insta death kill, just perfect. That's a great idea.
Not prepared for? How can you prepare for a monster with an insta-death skill.
And people aren't allowed to take Survivor's into GW:EN?
Anyway, thanks for all the support guys. Close the thread since I now see there is another one.
Last edited by Amorfati87; Sep 09, 2007 at 12:00 PM // 12:00..
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Sep 09, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52
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#2
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Black Dye Cartel
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The norn bear has a skill that insta-kills people if his health is low enough when he uses it. It happens. Its sorta your fault for doing quests on a survivor that you aren't prepared for.
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Sep 09, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54
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#3
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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kjoo kjoo 2u2
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Sep 09, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54
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#4
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK
Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]
Profession: R/A
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Maybe because you should have been survivor long before you went into GW:EN areas?!?
Maybe finishing one of the campaigns first like others do, then playing the expansion... Hell, even finishing the storyline's maybe?
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:15 PM // 12:15
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#5
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow
Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]
Profession: Me/
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They don't call it the Nornbear for nothing.
If you think he's unfair, try fighting 3 enemy with Twisting Jaws (retartedly overpowered monster skill, you must be plain retarted to come up with such a skill.)
Last edited by Alexandra-Sweet; Sep 09, 2007 at 12:18 PM // 12:18..
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
They don't call it the Nornbear for nothing.
If you think he's unfair, try fighting 3 enemy with Twisting Jaws (retartedly overpowered monster skill, you must be plain retarted to come up with such a skill.)
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Twisting Jaws is a joke. If you lose because of it, you are bad. The only way it's a threat is if you have no condition removal, and can't kill the monster within 20 seconds.
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35
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#7
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow
Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Twisting Jaws is a joke. If you lose because of it, you are bad. The only way it's a threat is if you have no condition removal, and can't kill the monster within 20 seconds.
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3 x 120 Armor ignoring damage = 360 Armor ignoring damage + Deep Wound = instant death.
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MA
Profession: D/W
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Ouch. I do feel sorry for you. 960,00 exp on survivor is nothing to sneeze at, especially when it's so close to legendary.
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44
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#9
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
3 x 120 Armor ignoring damage = 360 Armor ignoring damage + Deep Wound = instant death.
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Ummm...how? Do you run 2 Superiors or something? That's 480 damage, which shouldn't be instant death. I run around with at least 600 on ALL characters, which is far from death...
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Sep 09, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow
Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Ummm...how? Do you run 2 Superiors or something? That's 480 damage, which shouldn't be instant death. I run around with at least 600 on ALL characters, which is far from death...
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Monk: 1 Superior Healing OR Protection + Major Divine Favor (always handy) + Superior Vigor = 420
But lets not change the topic now as this has nothing to do with the Nornbear.
Last edited by Alexandra-Sweet; Sep 09, 2007 at 01:33 PM // 13:33..
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Sep 09, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03
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#11
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Black Dye Cartel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
Monk: 1 Superior Healing + Major Divine Favor (always handy) + Superior Vigor = 420
But lets not change the topic now as this has nothing to do with the Nornbear.
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I like this topic because it shows how you are mis-using runes.
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Sep 09, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05
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#12
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Mo/
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I have never had a problem with the nornbear. He's never killed anybody in my party. As a matter of fact, yesterday I was doing it on my monk, with a modified version of this necro build. Olias and Master were shutting him down so completely that he couldn't cast his disappearing skill. We must have done enough damage to kill him 10 times over, and none of us died. (When his bar reaches zero and he's not supposed to die, it instantly fills back up to about 20%.)
As far as your runes go, why are you using a major divine favor? Is that extra 3.2 health per heal really worth 35 of your own health? A superior healing I can *almost* see, but since the reward for a superior rune is 12 or 24 hp per heal on WoH at the cost of 75 health, it doesn't really seem worth it. Especially when you consider that in PvE, a monk should have the highest health on the team, because the AI targets low health first. The only superior monk rune that's worth it in a team situation is protection, because of the increased enchantment durations. 3 extra seconds of protective spirit is worth a lot more than 24 extra health from WoH.
Last edited by combatchuck; Sep 09, 2007 at 01:12 PM // 13:12..
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Sep 09, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06
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#13
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Guild: Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]
Profession: W/R
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You should always beat a campaign and feel completely familiar and comfortable with it before moving your survivor over, especially at such a high experience rating. I doubt you beat Eye of the North enough times to know what to expect at every turn, so consider this a learning experience.
I'm not being a jerk, I'm just being blunt. It happened to me too. I lost an indomitable survivor because I attempted a farming build I never used before. It happens.
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Sep 09, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27
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#14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: Astral Revenants
Profession: P/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
The norn bear has a skill that insta-kills people if his health is low enough when he uses it. It happens. Its sorta your fault for doing quests on a survivor that you aren't prepared for.
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It's not even sorta his fault. A survivor needs to be prepared for what he's going to encounter. Simple as that.
Failing to prepare means preparing to fail.
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Sep 09, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54
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#15
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: New Dragons [NDR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amorfati87
And people aren't allowed to take Survivor's into GW:EN?
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Allowed? Yes
Supposed to? No. Its High level content, Its not been around for long enough for things like this to surface to the whole community, and as you said, you can't prepare for something that has insta death skill, so don't go anywhere into the unknown.
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Sep 09, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25
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#16
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Pyromaniac
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Mo/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
Monk: 1 Superior Healing OR Protection + Major Divine Favor (always handy) + Superior Vigor = 420
But lets not change the topic now as this has nothing to do with the Nornbear.
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*facepalm* -.-
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Sep 09, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26
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#17
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I dunt even get "Retired"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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He did ask for it to be closed, so I guess it's closed.
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